萨古鲁在监狱中遇到的纹身故事
萨古鲁 Isha
A student asks Sadhguru whether getting tattooed is cool or not. Sadhguru shares his thoughts, and an interesting tattoo episode from his life.
一个学生问萨古鲁纹身是不是很酷?萨古鲁分享了他的想法,和他人生中一个有趣的纹身经历。
Moderator: So Sadhguru, I love tattoos. I have a lot of tattoos and I"m sure a lot of people in this room do. So when I got my first tattoo, there was a lot of clash of opinions between me and my parents. We fought a lot, "Why did you get this?" So my question to you is, is getting a tattoo something which looks unprofessional or is it something which lacks gravitas, or why? Why is this clash of opinion?
主持人: 萨古鲁,我喜欢纹身,我有许多纹身。我相信台下的很多人也一样。当我做第一个纹身时,我和父母产生了许多意见分歧,我们争论了很多——"为什么你要做这个?"所以我的问题是,纹身是否看上去不够职业,还是它不够庄重,还是为什么呢?为什么会有意见分歧?
Sadhguru: Well, the question is at different times in your life, different things may mean a lot to you. At that moment, if you have yourself marked permanently, and today in United States tattoo removal is a huge business – it"s bigger business than tattoo (Laughter), all right? Because you know, when they were in college, they fell in love, they wrote your name all over the arm (Laughter) and then its over, then rubbing it off, you have to peel your skin.
Sadhguru(萨古鲁): 问题是,在你生命中的不同时期,对你意义重大的事情可能有所不同。那时,如果你在自己身上永久留下了印迹,现在美国去除纹身是一门大生意——比纹身这门生意本身还大(笑声),好吗?因为你知道,在他们上大学时,他们坠入爱河,他们将你的名字写满整个手臂(笑声),然后结束了,要把它擦掉,你得剥一层皮。
So maybe it"s better you wait before you tattoo yourself all over the place. To something that matters to you. If you want to write it on your forehead, it better be something that matters to you for the rest of your life. Because after one or two years if it falls off, then you"ll have to peel your skin. Plus also, see everything that you are need not be written on your face. When you want to do work in the world, when you want to do things in the world, it’s not necessary that everything that you are is all upfront. You must have (Laughs)... what to expose to whom, isn’t it? (Laughs)
所以也许,在你纹满全身前,你最好先等等。某件对你很重要的事,如果你想把它写在脑门上,最好它是对你余生来说都重要的事。因为一两年后,如果它不重要了,你就得剥一层皮。况且,看,你的一切不需要都写在你脸上。当你想在世上做工作,当你想在世上做事情,没有必要把你的一切都显露在外。你必须有(笑)……(选择)对谁显露什么,不是吗?(笑)
So if your tattoo is already saying what you are, your philosophy and everything is written. So we know who you are, the moment you enter. If you are wanting to live a very simplistic life, it"s okay. If you"re looking for a more complex involvement in life, it"s better people are not able to mark you in any particular way. Shall I tell you my experience with tattoos? No, I don"t have any (Laughter). I am too dark for the tattoos, what to do (Laughs)? There are white color tattoo? Okay (Laughs).
所以,如果你的纹身已经写了你是谁、你的人生观,一切都写了,你一进来,我们就知道你是什么样的人。如果你想过一种非常简单的生活,那没问题。如果你在追求更复杂地参与在生活中,那么最好人们无法以任何特定方式给你贴标签。我要告诉你们我的纹身经历吗?不,我没有纹身(笑声)。我太黑了,没法纹身,怎么办呢(笑)?有白色的纹身吗?好吧(笑)。
I was… you know, we"ve been working in the prisons, both in India and United States. This movement is called "Inner Freedom for the Imprisoned". It"s a… It"s a very touching movement. So when I was in Kentucky Correction Center, it’s a high security prison. There, there was one guy who"s a tattoo maker. He makes tattoos. So I was doing a ten day program there for these prisoners, so they got really pally with me. Then they revealed… I said, "Where did you get these tattoos within the prison?" Everything is searched, okay? Even from your body orifices, everything is searched so that nothing goes in. But somehow this guy tattoos everybody at a tremendous price, okay?
我在……你知道,我们曾到监狱里工作过,在印度和美国都有。这个运动叫作"带给囚犯内在自由"。那是一个……那是一个非常感人的运动。当我在肯塔基惩教中心时,那是一个戒备森严的监狱。在那里,有一个做纹身的人,他给人做纹身。我在那里为囚犯上一门十天的课程,所以他们跟我变得很亲近。然后他们展露了(纹身),我说:"在监狱里,你们在哪做的纹身?"一切都要被搜查,好吗?甚至从你身上的孔里,一切地方都要查,所以没东西能进来。然而这个家伙给所有人做了纹身,以极高的价格,好吗?
And he showed me all his tricks - how he tattoos. He breaks off one little thing off the fork and sharpens it and sharpened it makes…makes it into a needle. Anything little plastic he gets, bits and pieces of plastic he gathers, melts it out and different colors – you should see the prisoners, they are tattooed from head to toe. This decides which gang they belong to. You know it"s like a…They…A particular type of tattoo means you belong to this group. Wherever they go, in there this thing, they have a lingo that this is where you belong and it also tells them what grade of criminal are you. Are you really high grade or low grade criminal? Literally entire torso is always tattooed for most of them. and this is the guy who does it.
他向我展示他所有的窍门——他怎么纹身。他从叉子上折下一个小东西,把它弄尖再弄尖……把它弄成一支针。他得到的任何一点点塑料,零零碎碎的塑料,他收集起来,把它溶掉,有不同的颜色——你应该看看那些囚犯,他们从头到脚都有纹身。这决定了他们所属的帮派。你知道,那就像一个……他们……一种特定的纹身表示你属于这个帮派。无论他们去哪,这种纹身就是他们的暗语——这就是你所属的帮派,而且它也表明了你是哪一个级别的罪犯,你是高级别还是低级别的罪犯。真的,他们大部分人全身都有纹身,而就是这个家伙做的。
And all these people, they have made a this thing that they owe him. When they leave the prison, if they ever go back, they owe him how much it is -thousands of dollars they owe this guy. He’s keeping accounts of all that, writing it on his arm (Laughs) – accounts. So it was an incredible thing to see. I told him, "You show it how you do." Well, the guards were there, he said, "I cannot show it," but he explained to me how he does it. It"s just ingenious. Within the prison what he’s doing with these tattoos. If you really want to get a good tattoo, Kentucky (Laughter/Applause).
所有这些人,他们都纹了纹身,都欠他的。当他们离开监狱,如果他们真的会回去,他们欠他多少钱——有好几千美元。他都记着账,写在他的手臂上(笑)——账目。所以,这是件令人难以置信的事。我跟他说:"你展示一下,你怎么做的。"可是,警卫在那里,他说:"我不能给你看。"但是他跟我解释了他是怎么做的,太心灵手巧了——在监狱里,他做的纹身这些事。如果你真想要一个好纹身,去肯塔基。(笑声/掌声)
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