雷阿伦谈老詹为什么不是GOAT,球迷按照这个逻辑杜兰特才是GOAT
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NBACentral:Ray Allen explains why LeBron is not the G.O.A.T
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NBACentral:雷阿伦解释为什么勒布朗不是GOAT
So who the hell is the GOAT then???
那么,到底谁才是GOAT呢???
If you"re the goat, definitely can"t be in this list. Look who"s leading
如果你是GOAT,肯定不能出现在这个名单上,看看谁在这份排名的榜首
Pretty bad arguments even though I think Jordan is the goat. Jordan wasn’t a good 3 point shooter , let’s not free throws and dribbling in a goat argument , lame . Lebron is a better passer than Mike , rebounder , and defense is even but lebron could guard 1-5 , Jordan couldn’t
尽管我认为乔丹是GOAT,但你这是个很糟糕的论点。乔丹不是一个好的三分射手,让我们不要在GOAT争论中谈论罚球和运球,这样很别扭。勒布朗是一个比乔丹更好的传球手,篮板手,防守也一样,但勒布朗可以防守1-5个位置,乔丹不能
You gotta put it to perspective during the 90’s 3 point shooting wasn’t as relevant compared to today, so of course Lebron is a better 3 pt shooter, but Jordan was definitely better at closer range
90 年代的三分球与今天相比并没有那么重要,所以勒布朗当然是一个更好的三 分投手,但乔丹在中远距离肯定更胜一筹
Is Jordan a great dribbler? he’s not better than Bron, and he’s factually not a better 3 point shooter
乔丹是一个伟大的运球手吗?他并不比勒布朗好,事实上他也不是一个更好的 三分投手
who else in the goat conversation is a "great" free throw shooter or a "great" 3 point shooter
在GOAT的谈论中,还有谁必须是 "伟大的 "罚球手或一个 "伟大的 "三分球手?
He’s not a good 3pt shooter or free throw shooter and is still about to be 1st on the all time scoring list
他不是一个好的三分投手或罚球手,但他仍然即将成为历史得分王
Well debate over MJ was a horrible 3 pt shooter. Curry is now the greatest of all time
好了,辩论结束了,乔丹是一个可怕的三分球射手。库里现在是有史以来最伟大的球员
Using this logic would mean there is no .
使用这种逻辑意味着没有GOAT
Ray Allen is right...but what is sad are these kids!! If they had an IQ...ask then Ray, who is? Cause no player ever is the best at everything so no GOAT exists.. now Ray who is the closest? I bet you Lebron and Jordan are up there but Lebron is more of a well rounded player.
雷-阿伦是对的......但可悲的是这些孩子! 如果他们聪明一点.....那么请问雷,谁是(GOAT)?因为没有一个球员在所有方面都是最好的,所以不存在GOAT......,谁是最接近的?我敢打赌,勒布朗和乔丹都在那里,但勒布朗是一个更全面的球员。
Jordan had 9 seasons shooting below 30% from 3, including 5 seasons when he shot below 20% from 3.
James has a higher career 3-point percentage than Kobe in both the regular season and the Playoffs.
James has a higher career 3-point percentage in the Playoffs than Larry Bird.
乔丹有9个赛季的三分球命中率低于30%,包括5个赛季的三分球命中率低于20%。
詹姆斯职业生涯在常规赛和季后赛中的三分球命中率都比科比高。
詹姆斯职业生涯在季后赛中的三分球命中率比拉里-伯德高。
LeBron lifts his teammates more than anyone ever has, I’d statistically the greatest player ever, and has the hardest collection of finals and playoff series wins.
勒布朗比任何人都更能提升他的队友,据我统计,他是有史以来最伟大的球员,并且拥有最难的总决赛和季后赛系列赛胜利。
If u wanna go by that logic literally kd is the goat
如果你想按照这个逻辑去,kd就是GOAT
Can’t be the goat when you get outscored by an old Jason terry playing 10+ LESS minutes per game in the NBA Finals
当你被一个在NBA总决赛中场均出场时间少10多分钟的老杰森-特里打败时,你就不能成为GOAT了。
He says is he a good three point shooter. He’s a better three point shooter then Jordan that’s forsure. Worst 3pt contest contestant ever but no one talks about that. Mj couldn’t make others better or be a playmaker and play every position
他说他是一个优秀的三分射手,他是一个比乔丹更好的三分射手,这是肯定的。有史以来三分球大赛得分最低的参赛者,但没有人谈论这一点。乔丹无法让别人变得更好,也无法成为组织核心并打好每个位置。
The guy who won 6 Titles in 13 seasons couldn’t make players better but the guy who has to hop from stacked team to stacked team and still only ha 4 titles in 19 seasons makes players better huh
在13个赛季中赢得6个冠军的人无法让球员变得更好,但有个家伙要从一个球队跳到另一个球队,并且在19个赛季中仍然只有4个冠军的人能让球员变得更好,呵呵。
This argument is stupid. MJ changed the game, Magic changed PG, Kareem changed C & PF, Kobe changed the game again & inspired the world, Bron changed the game(made it positionless) Steph changed PG position again and created a new distance category & got execs debating a 4pt line
这种说法是愚蠢的。MJ 改变了比赛,魔术改变了控卫定义,贾巴尔改变了中锋和大前锋,科比再次改变了比赛并激发了全世界,勒布朗改变了比赛(使其没有位置定义) 库里再次改变了控卫的位置并创造了一个新的投篮距离,并让高管们谈论四分球线
Ray Allen metrics of GOAT is flat out wrong. How does a guy who can’t shoot 3, can’t shoot 2 and can’t dribble is about to be the highest scoring player in the history of NBA. How does he do it? Is he saying how Lebron would achieve the feat won’t matter?
雷-阿伦的GOAT指标是完全错误的。一个不会投三分,不会投两分,不会运球的人怎么会成为NBA历史上得分最高的球员。他是怎么做到的?他是说勒布朗如何实现这一壮举并不重要吗?
Aside from free throw shooting, I don"t think Jordan"s definitively better than lebron at either of those things (3 point shooting and dribbling)
除了罚球,我认为乔丹在这两个方面都不会比勒布朗更好(三分球和运球)
King James is a better leader. MJ is a better killa. both them are goat in different era。 we China 90s-00s fans didn"t watch jordan play.From my childhood to present,KB &King James are way too great
詹皇是一个更好的领袖,他们都是不同时代的GOAT,我们中国90后,00后球迷没有看过乔丹的比赛,从我的童年到现在,科比和詹皇都太伟大了。
What makes you to GOAT? Dribbling, ball handling, shooting, dunking, free throws? If that’s the logic then the highest scorer of all times should be the GOAT. Or the person with the highest average scores in all these categories should be the GOAT.
是什么让你成为GOAT?运球、控球、投篮、扣篮、罚球?如果是这样的逻辑,那么有史以来得分最高的人应该是GOAT。或者在所有这些类别中拥有最高平均得分的人应该是GOAT。
Lebron does a lot of stuff well but not great at one thing. But i think he’s most unstoppable when scoring (that run of 25pts against pistons) Jordan is a great scorer winning scoring titles while getting his rings. Its actually not common scoring champs ends up as champs
勒布朗在很多方面都做得很好,但不是每个领域都出色。但我认为他在得分时是最不可阻挡的(对活塞的连得25分),乔丹是一个伟大的得分手,在获得总冠军的同时赢得了得分王。实际上,得分王最终夺得总冠军并不常见。
Was Michael Jordan a great 3 point shooter? No. He shot less than 33% on his career. He also shot a respectable, but not elite, 83% from the line. So according to Ray"s logic, Jordan cannot be the GOAT.
迈克尔-乔丹是一个伟大的三分射手吗?不,他的职业生涯中的三分命中率不到33%。他的罚球命中率很不错,但不是精英级别的,为83%。因此,根据雷的逻辑,乔丹不可能成为GOAT。
Ray Allen"s thinking is flawed. No one player is going to be the great at EVERYTHING. They may not even be good at everything. Was Jordan great at shooting threes? He was worse than LeBron is. A great dribbler? Good, but no better than Bron. A great passer? Not close to LeBron.
雷-阿伦的观点是有缺陷的。没有一个球员会在所有方面都是伟大的。他们甚至可能不是什么都擅长。乔丹在三分球方面很出色吗?他比勒布朗还差。是一个伟大的运球者?很好,但不比勒布朗好,一个伟大的传球手吗?离勒布朗还有一定距离。